What The Media Is Not Writing About Flight MH17

Only hours after the tragic downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine, Western politicians, led by the dickhead in chief Barack Hussein Obama were jumping up and down screaming “It was Russia wot done it.” The sycophants in mainstream media were quick to join in, stating that the US / EU backed fascist government in Kiev had compelling evidence that pro Russian separatists in east Ukraine, with the complicity of The Kremlin were responsible for the outrage.

What immediately struck the more level headed and intelligent commentators of new media was that political leaders and their tame political hacks were just too quick off the mark.

“But it It had to be Russia; it had to be Putin, we so desperately need it to be Putin” they howled when the voice of common sense pointed out that the government of Ukraine saying it was pro Russian dissidents it hardly the compelling evidence they claimed it was

President Obama held a press conference to remind everyone that he is the most wonderful human being that ever lived and reiterate that if world leaders who just accept his supremacy and do what he told them there would be no more conflict. he went on to claim – even before an investigation – that it was certainly pro-Russian rebels in the region who were responsible. His ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, did the same at the UN Security Council – just one day after the crash and at a time when the back box flight recorders were still missing.

While western media outlets rush to broadcast government propaganda on the event, there are a few things they will not report.

They will not for example remind you that the crisis in Ukraine started late last year, when EU and US-supported seditionists led moves to the overthrow the elected Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych. Without US-sponsored “regime change,” it is unlikely that hundreds would have been killed in the unrest that followed. Nor would the Malaysian Airlines crash have happened.

The media has also reported unequivocally that the plane must have been shot down by Russian forces or Russian-backed separatists, because the missile that reportedly brought down the plane was Russian made. But they will not report that the Ukrainian government also uses the exact same Russian-made weapons. They will not report that while it is known that the Ukraine army have Buc missiles, launchers and trained crews, there is no evidence that the Pro – Russian dissidents did.

When lack of evidence of the rebels is pointed out the media luvvies scream “but that isn’t proof that they didn’t have them.”

Exactly. It is impossible to prove a negative. And the fact that the Ukraine Army did have SAM launchers capable of firing they type of missile allegedly responsible for bringing down the aircraft does not prove the Ukraine Army fired it. just because the rent boy President, brack Obama wants a thing to be true does not make it so. The fact that he can belive a thing is true because he wants it to be true only proves he is a solipsist.

We had a solipsist as Prime Minister of the UK not long ago, the traitor and war criminal Tony Blair. And he was as keen on war and killing as Obama. but I digress.

Mainstream media will not report that the EU / US sponsored government in Kiev has killed 250 people in the breakaway Lugansk region since June, according to OSCE monitors nor that the USA has strongly backed the Ukrainian government in these attacks on civilians, which a State Department spokeswoman called “measured and moderate.”

Their hysterical commentators will not point out that Russia and the pro Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine have anything to gain but everything to lose by shooting down a passenger liner full of civilians, thus bringing down on their cause the anger of the world. Nor will they comment that the Ukrainian usurper’s government could give itself a kind of legitimacy gain by blaming the attack on Russia, or that the Ukrainian leader is openly gloating about Russia being blamed for the attack.

They will not report that the missile that apparently shot down the plane was from a sophisticated surface-to-air missile system that requires a good deal of training that the separatists do not have.

They will not report that the separatists in eastern Ukraine have inflicted considerable losses on the Ukrainian government in the week before the plane was downed.

And they will not even breathe a word about how similar this craptangle is to last summer’s US claim that the Assad government in Syria had used poison gas against civilians in Ghouta. Assad was also gaining the upper hand in his struggle with US-backed rebels and the US claimed that the attack came from Syrian government positions. US false claims and unsubstantiated accusations led us to the brink of war in that case too. Public opposition and support for Assad from Russia, China and Iran forced Obama to back down then, we have learned since then that US claims about the gas attack were false.

The word of a liar and a bunch of fascist thugs is not evidence so let’s all calm down for one simple reason. For decades we have been brainwashed with propaganda about American military supremacy. But now with a US President who seems hellbent on starting a real war with Russia and it’s allies are we sure we are willing to bank on the US wiping out their enemies without any return of fire.

We are very foolish if we are.

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16 Responses to “What The Media Is Not Writing About Flight MH17”

  1. Athelstan Says:

    Well, it’s always good to get a balanced, measured view but….the evidence against the pro-Russian forces is quite compelling.
    >The Separatists have been happily blowing things out of the sky for months; the Kiev government hasn’t.
    >The Separatists informed the world via social media that it had shot down an aircraft then quickly withdrew this statement when it was realised the plane was a civvy.
    >It was shot down in a Separatist controlled area.
    >Refusal to give access to international aviation experts compounded their guilt; if they were truly innocent of this horrendous crime, they would have freely allowed them in to speed up their exoneration.
    > They had the motive, the history and the means.

    Sometimes, the bleeding obvious is just that.

    • ianrthorpe Says:

      Except that:

      The separatists didn’t have the hardware. Nor did they have the personnel trained to use such hardware.

      The plane was diverted to that route after leaving Schipol by Ukrainian Air Traffic Control. The story that airlines were sill happily using the route has been exposed as a lie by several airline pilots.

      Satellite video shows the missile was fired from an area in which Kiev’s forces are in control.

      If the EU and USA had not collaborated to install in Kiev what the thought would be a puppet government but has turned our to be a bunch of neo-fascists and gangsters, there would have been no separatists.

      If the EU and USA had not broken a treaty signed under international law which bound the EU and NATO to refrain from attempts to drag former Soviet Republics into the EU and NATO none of this would be happening.

      Yes, to me is is absolutely obvious that the EU and USA are attempting once again to start World War Three.

      Remember the screams from The White House and Downing Street and the hysteria from the media following the Syrian gas attack which they blamed on Assad? And months later after everything had gone quiet, it turned out the gas attack had been launched by rebels sponsored by the USA and EU using gas filled mortar shells fired from mortars all supplied by the USA through intermediaries.

      Whenever something seems obvious, question it and while the answers do not make sense keep questioning.

      I’ve already blogged about how convenient this disaster was for diverting attention from Israeli atrocities in Gaza.

  2. daryan Says:

    …and as I’ve recently commented on my blog the fact that the Russian media is promoting a bunch of half baked and easily discredited conspiracy theories tends to suggest they have something to hide. The lady doth protest too much!

    Or are you just upset that Farage’s hero Putin has been proven to be a mass murderer?…or that we’ve been provided with yet another good reason why the European countries need to stick together..?

    As for the rush to judgement, I work in a university and the first response of the aerospace staff upon hearing it was, probably a missile & given the plane’s direction of travel, probably the Russians or rebels. That the media can get an expert on the phone to point out the blindingly obvious is hardly a surprise.

    • MichaelStMark Says:

      Russian satellite and radar imagery released today shows Ukrainian govt BUK laauncher in the close vicinity of MH17 crash site on the day of the atrocity p+us a Ukrainian govt warplane on the same flightpath at the same time as the downed Malaysian plane.
      Where’s Obama’s “indisputable evidence” that a seperatist rocket downed the plane, professor?
      We’re still waiting… tick tock..

      • ianrthorpe Says:

        Mike, I’ve encountered Daryan before, he’s one of those people who believe that a bit of paper with a university seal on it is the ONLY measure of human intelligence.
        Poor lad hasn’t noticed that all the ‘evidence’ so far offered is specualtion. It always amuses me when the people who bang on about “evidence based thinking” are quite happy to offer “You can’t prove the rebels didn’t do it,” as evidence that they did.

      • daryan Says:

        Yes the Russian media is well known for its honesty and integrity. I recall the old days of the cold war how they used to have a paper called “Pravda” (truth) which was famous for its complete absence of any truth.

        And it is strange how those on the far right in the UK will lap up the tall tails of ex-communists!

      • MichaelStMark Says:

        Tonight’s White House statement by an ‘un-named’ intelligence spokesperson. . . ‘we have no direct evidence of Russian involvement in the downing of MH17. . “. How does it feel to be an MSM tabloid wanksheet brainwash victim, chump?

      • ianrthorpe Says:

        Mike, high five time I think :))

    • ianrthorpe Says:

      Your naive faith is the absolute truth of western propaganda and the absolute falsity of anything that opposes western propaganda is quite charming in a childlike way. If only things were so simple that the world could be divided into white hats and black hats.

      You told me once before you work in a University. Which to me only suggests that you spend your life insulated from reality. This is demonstrated by your invoking an imaginary ‘aviation expert’.

      Unfortunately in referring to the direction the plane was travelling as significant evidence that the rebels fired the missile. WRONG.
      A Buk launcher fires missiles from a turret which rotates through 360 degrees (and the vehicle that carries the missiles is pretty nimble too) It would not matter what direction the plane was travelling, it was still a sitting target for a SAM. I have that confirmed by Graham Lear, a former Major in the paratroop regiment. He might not be a university ‘expert’ in aviation theory but he knows about firing SAMs (he was in the Falklands).

      As for your attempts to get political, Putin is NOT Farage’s hero, Farage is not mine (Shakespeare is). I’m sure Vladimir Putin has killed people, but if we are talking about mass murderers your left wing demi-god Obama has a well documented love of drone strikes. I’d bet my life saving he’s killed more innocents in Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq and Syria than died on flight MH17.

      And a tip for future reference, on a long time line I’m always proved right.

      • daryan Says:

        The direction of travel is crucial when you put things in the prospective of the guy in the command vehicle. To a Ukrainian the plane is moving away from them (not a treat), while to a Russian/rebel the plane is approaching, and doing so on the same track as a Ukrainian fighter would potentially follow.

        It matches the scenario when a US warship shot down an Iranian airliner back in the 80’s, as it appeared to be approaching on the same track as they would expect an Iranian fighter. Trigger happy as usual, the Yanks then failed to properly check things before firing(if they had they’d have realised it was an airliner on a scheduled flight in a recognised air corridor).

        As for you “always being proved right” LOL. I recall having a good old laugh at you’re views on climate change sometime ago

      • ianrthorpe Says:

        You really are full of bullshit. Even from the ground a 777 looks nothing like a fighter. And as we know the Ukraine rebels have no sophisticated kit so they’d have to rely on visual contact. The video of a missile launcher allegedly being driven back to Russia has now been officially debunked, the video (of Ukrainian forces driving a launcher into rebel held territory) was first posted on You Tube three months ago.

        A modern SAM automatically picks up its target and homes in. Those BUC missiles can shoot a fly out of the air once locked on (and flies are not noted for maintaining a constant course)

        If you look at my latest post you will learn that the “compelling evidence” the American’s had was gossip the NSA read on social media. I link to the official transcript of today’s US State Department presser as my source.

        You might have laughed but the global mean temperature has not increased for almost twenty years, polar ice is increasing and polar bears are breeding like rabbits. And I have never denied climate change (BTW climate change deniers is a silly phrase used by silly and irrelevant people) The climate changes all the time which is why it is impossible to gain accurate data from mathematical models) What I am sceptical about is the alarmism which is based solely on speculation rather than real world evidence (sic). And on that I have been proved right about warming, right about wind turbines being a waste of money and right about the climate science community bring a bunch of frauds. Not a bad average.

        You know when I read the kind of half baked left wing crap you post and then you inform me you work in a university as if that invests you with some kind of authority, I understand why my old colleagues still involved in business complain they’re hiring graduates and find the kids need remedial education in basic English and arithmetic.

        Oh and BTW again: I’m not right wing I’m an anarchist – and I mean a real anarchist, not a rent-a-mob little weekend Trot. As you are of the neo-fascist authoritarian left you are probably politically ignorant as well (right wing = big government; left wing = individual freedom and small state. Simples) here’s a link to something that will help you understand anarchy as a political philosophy

        Go back to your bubble. Reality does not happen there.

      • daryan Says:

        Anarchist? I think the term you’re looking for JPL (Just plain Nuts)

      • ianrthorpe Says:

        That of course is another wild assumption based on nothing more than your prejudiced.
        You were wrong, Mike and me were right.
        Where you went wrong (I doubt you have the intelligence to glean the pearls of wisdom that drip from my brow but I’ll give it a try) is that where the two of us instead of following the sheeple, took a step back and said “Hang on, the Americans have no ‘evidence’ of anything, it just suits their economic need for war to blame Russia.

        You, being an infallible ‘scientist’ then interpreted that as implying we both as totally and blindly accepted the Russian version as you had accepted the US version. A scientist should never jump to conclusions.

        But we don’t, we merely say, “Well the Russians have shown their evidence but all we have from the White House is “You must believe us because we are more reliable. And again anyone who declines to follow the sheeple thinks of Syria (twice), Iraq, Libya and countless other American outrages which they have denied before being caught out lying.

        And then we think of what has been revealed by Ed Snowden and Bradley Manning. And we think, “Only an idiot would take America’s unsupported word for everything.”

        And they you step up to the mark. And you say I’m nuts, what do you think you are looking like right now (apart from a nutty big-government fascist who thinks he can hide the truth by calling himself left wing.)

      • daryan Says:

        So you’re saying the aircraft just dropped out of the sky for no apparent reason?

        You’re problem is that you’ll ignore the blindingly obvious, yet accept as gospel truth the most ridiculous conspiracy theories and fairy stories that happen to support you’re pre-determined conclusions.

      • daryan Says:

        “it is impossible to gain accurate data from mathematical models”

        Then how did that missile hit the aircraft? You do know that some of the first serious studies into greenhouses gases in the atmosphere was conducted by the USAF back in the 50’s. They weren’t trying to prove global warming, but support the development of heat seeking missiles as well as anti-missile counter measures.

        If it was impossible to mathematically model such things it would be impossible to build a anti-aircraft missile… or the aircraft! Most modern aircraft are designed with the aid of just such computer models… or I presume you will declare the act of defying gravity as being the work of witchcraft?

        One wonders how the met office predict the weather days in advance without computer models, I mean are you suggesting that they sacrifice chickens and examine the entrails for clues :0

  3. ianrthorpe Says:

    You are trying to wriggle here, sorry too late mate – you’ve made a twat of yourself already. My remark about mathematical models refered to climate models. context is everything.

    You picked the worst example you could with weather forecasting. Their track record for anything more than a few hours ahead is abysmal. Remember the barbecue summer they forecast a couple of years ago and we had the coldest, wettest summer on record. And that’s just one example. As for examining entrails, that’s just silly. Proper weather forecasters (i.e. those who have a better average than random guesses would give) use seaweed or pine cones.

    I’m gobsmacked however, you have already proved you (or should I say your university ‘aviation staff’ don’t know the difference between aircraft navigation systems and weapons guidance systems. (wtf are aviation staff doing in a university unless they are your imaginary friends), they should be working for an airline , a military air force or a civil aviation authority). Now to appear to be telling me you don’t know the difference between a mathematical model and an algorithm. The most sophisticated SAMs lock on to a radio signal and track it, older ones seek a heat source and track that. There are other systems but they don’t use mathematical models either.

    And aircraft (also nuclear power stations I know for certain) are designed using mathematical SIMULATIONS. Saves a lot of money but live environments tests have to be carried out too because models do not always perform the same way as reality (viz Global not warming but staying the same for twenty years).

    You get more idiotic. What has defying gravity toi do with missiles. Have you heard of rocket propulsion systems. They don’t defy gravity they just deploy a stronger force.

    Now you’re tried bullying (fail), taking things out of context (fail) lying (fail) being sarcastic (tragic fail). What’s going wrong here is you are responding to what you think I said instead of paying attention to my words.

    As an act of kindness I’m going to close the thread now before you do your ego a permanent injury. See if you’d just had the good grace to admit you are wrong. Now you have to live with the worry that I will splash your impression of a petulant five yer old all over the web along with your real name and place of work.

    Never go into a thread and casually drop that you work in a university thinking it will impress people and give you some kind of authority (you’ve done it twice with me – sorry, I have a great memory). It’s much more likely to piss people off.

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